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		<title>A Look Around the Web</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of theological items on the web in the last few days that I thought were worth a look: 1. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve picked up on the theological &#8216;saga&#8217; of the last week involving John MacArthur&#8217;s &#8216;misunderstanding&#8217; (you decide what it was) of Darrin Patrick&#8217;s book new book Church Planter. Well Darrin [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: justify;">A couple of theological items on the web in the last few days that I thought were worth a look:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">1. I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;ve picked up on the theological &#8216;saga&#8217; of the last week involving <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/01/25/darrin-patrick-and-john-macarthur/">John MacArthur&#8217;s &#8216;misunderstanding&#8217;</a> (you decide what it was) of Darrin Patrick&#8217;s book new book <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Church-Planter-Man-Message-Mission/dp/1433515768">Church Planter</a></em>. Well <a href="http://journeyon.net/blogs/darrin-patrick/not-radical-individualism-reply-dr-john-macarthur">Darrin has written a truly gracious reply</a> to MacArthur&#8217;s concerns. I got to hang out with Darrin a little bit two years ago when I visited the Journey Church and he came across as a superb guy with a ton to offer the church. His response just enhances my admiration for him and the work God is doing through him at the Journey. Well done Darrin.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">2. David Fitch has <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemission.com/the-attractional-basis-of-neo-reformed-church-plants-yes-or-no/">some thoughts on the growth of neo-reformed churches</a> in the vein of Mars Hill and Redeemer Presbyterian. His basic premise is that the models of these churches (and others like them) are ultimately growing through transfer growth by gathering large numbers of already-churched folk through excellent attractional meetings. The comments suggest that not everyone agrees &#8211; including Tim Keller. I found it particularly interesting that Keller seems to think that it need not be the case that the only people who will ever walk into a church service are basically traditional, conservative folk. I&#8217;ve often wondered about this. There is so much missional writing out there that says secular, completely-unchurched people don&#8217;t ever go to corporate worship services &#8211; I have my doubts about this rhetoric.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">3. I enjoyed <a href="http://tgcreviews.com/interviews/interview-with-michael-horton-on-the-christian-faith/">this interview with Michael Horton</a> about his new systematic theology, &#8216;<a href="http://www.wtsbooks.com/product-exec/product_id/6606/nm/Christian_Faith_A_Systematic_Theology_For_Pilgrims_on_The_Way_Hardcover_?utm_source=gospelcoalition&amp;utm_medium=blogpartners"><em>The Christian Faith</em></a>&#8216;. I particularly enjoyed this quote:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px; text-align: justify;"><em>I agree wholeheartedly that we need a renewed conviction of God’s personal address in command and promise. I would only add, with Abraham Kuyper, that our confidence in Scripture rises and falls with our confidence in the gospel. We can be distracted by all sorts of good and worthy enterprises, but the gospel is “the power of God unto salvation.” The Spirit gives us faith, uniting us to Christ, through that word of redemption in Christ. Of course, Scripture also exhorts, commands, reproves, and directs. However, until we are convinced that God is actually addressing us here and now through his Word, convicting us along with the world of sin and forgiving and renewing us in his Son, the Bible will remain a closed and irrelevant book.</em></p>
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		<title>New York Trip: Part VIII</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Murray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s all over (although my jet-lag isn&#8217;t quite yet)! We left the States on the 21st of October at around noon and arrived in Cape Town on the 23rd, around noon (local time). We&#8217;ve spent the weekend trying to get our internal clocks back on track. The final week of the intensive went off well. [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">It&#8217;s all over (although my jet-lag isn&#8217;t quite yet)! We left the States on the 21st of October at around noon and arrived in Cape Town on the 23rd, around noon (local time). We&#8217;ve spent the weekend trying to get our internal clocks back on track.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The final week of the intensive went off well. We were all a little jaded and starting to think about getting home. It was quite sad to say goodbye to the other planters and their wives not knowing when we&#8217;ll ever see each other again. We had a send-off lunch with the <a href="http://www.rcpc.com/staff.jsp?navigation=13">RCPC staff</a> and then each one went their separate way.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Our way took us to one more stop before the long trip home: St Louis, Missouri. I was in St Louis in February 08 visiting friends and <a href="http://journeyon.net/">the Journey Church</a> which is one of the more influential churches in the <a href="http://www.acts29network.org/">Acts29 Network</a>. On my previous visit I was really impressed with the Journey and the setup they had in St Louis so I really wanted Robin to see it and experience their community a little. So we spent 5 days catching up with friends and attending functions at the Journey. I had the chance to meet <a href="http://www.theresurgence.com/profile_darrin_patrick">Darrin Patrick</a>, the lead pastor, and spend some time getting to know him and talk about church planting both in the States and in South Africa. It was a worthwhile time of building relationships and getting further learning on the subject. We also had the chance to attend the Midwest regional Acts29 quarterly. By this time of our trip I was completely conferenced out and so I was expecting to doze off during most of the quarterly but they had <a href="http://soma-missionalmusings.blogspot.com/">Jeff Vanderstelt</a> out from <a href="http://www.somacommunities.org/">Soma Communities</a> and he did 2 brilliant sessions that kept me wide awake.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">So here&#8217;s my thoughts on the whole trip: God seems to be doing something huge through both the ministries of Redeemer Presbyterian and the Acts 29 Network &#8211; when you&#8217;re around these guys you really get the sense that something big is afoot in the world of church planting. And so in many ways Robin and I are completely humbled by the fact that we get to play a small part in this global movement. We were truly blessed by our time and I can confidently say that we were both affected and changed deeply by it. We come back to Cape Town with new eyes on a number of important issues. We&#8217;re also really grateful for the many friends we made along the way and are looking forward to building those relationships in the future.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I&#8217;d like to thank everyone, both at home and in the States, who helped make this trip possible. We are enormously thankful to God for all of you.</p>
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